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Of Blizzard, Censorship and Fair Play

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Blizzard leads the charge against toxic players with the new Fair Play Alliance. But many more are taking a similar route, Rainbow Six Siege saw a massive ban wave due to toxic behaviour. Let us discuss the issue. theScore esports: What is TriHard? https://youtu.be/TCYydU8kzJY Follow us on twitter! https://twitter.com/ESCalationOffic
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JamesWhisky (23 hours ago)
Any censorship or banning is totally bullshit to any topic. Because exchanging informations is the main force for humans.
JOSE FLORES SALAS (11 days ago)
Insulting your team mates is bad because they get tilted and usually they lose just for insulting his team. But insulting the enemy can be used strategically to make an enemy get tilted or ragequit. Pd: sorry for my bad English
Cory Harpster (18 days ago)
14 years I have supported blizzard and enjoyed world of Warcraft. With the exception of having some accounts banned during my time with Noggaholic, 13 years ago... I have never been warned, silenced, or banned for any reason. I have indeed spoken like a true sailor countless times in battlegrounds, however nothing ever even remotely racist, sexist etc.... more like "your a fucking idiot" or "learn your fucking class, noob" etc. etc... No biggie. I've had the same criticism directed towards me, No biggie. Now Battle for Azeroth just released, I have been silenced twice, in two weeks. What did I say to get me silenced? Well the first time was on release date, word for word I said: Blizzards A-team retired, their b-team got fired, and now it seems their c-team doesn't have a clue" Yes that got me a 1 week silence. I was pissed, but moved on. Then a few days ago I got silenced again for 72 hours, for saying: MAGA2020. I received an email stating that the "community" has deemed my words abusive and toxic. I chose to appeal it and received a 72hour estimated wait time lol. I cancelled my subscription, uninstalled the entire game and moved on. Yea sucks I'm just throwing all my time spent, money, accomplishments away. But I will not support this form of fascist censorship in any way. To be frank I have never even seen any real racism in the game. I have seen rude, annoying behavior, but never true racism, or harassment. not saying it doesn't happen, but its very very rare. Now what I do see is people getting silenced in groves for literally nothing. someone doesn't like your post, or you undercutting a sale, said person gets their guild to report you, banned instantly. I've seen demented multi-boxers reporting people for shaming multi-boxing (which is in fact looked down upon) 1 person who has the same power as a gm, if not more power actually. This is what I would classify as toxic abuse lol. So the system is broken, but will blizzard fix it? Nope. They state they have given the power to the community to police their own, and its working as intended. After spending a lot of time researching wtf is going on, I found that a very large % of these "offenders" are leaving wow for the same reason I am, that makes me happy. Not that I want blizzard to fail, I want to play their games. But if they are going to pander to thin skinned crybaby bigots that require safe space over their veteran customers, let it be. It will hurt their business more than it hurts us. Its just a game.
Ancroz Azure (18 days ago)
Cuckwatch
Felix Dumbravescu (29 days ago)
Personal thought, if you don't like what someone is saying, mute him (sorry but 5 seconds is not a big deal....). If in worst case scenario that person said some fucked up shit then use report function for Abusive Dialogue(and maybe other aspects too if need be) and if enough other people agreed that person is a pille of shit then and only then should that person get a period of Silence from Voice Chat and Text Chat (kinda like how it goes in Dota and heroes of the storm) but again only if enough people agree that the said person is a piece of shit.
Legandary Prinny Gamer (1 month ago)
So basically it sounds great on paper, it just needs some serious defining and overall not be from these guys.
SuperTrooper (1 month ago)
hypocrisy is a common political theme
Apollo (1 month ago)
Got a 1 day chat suspension for foul language. What did I say? Fuck politics
veracsthane (1 month ago)
If only this was actually what happens. Whiny bitches who troll and grief use this nonsense to hijack game and take them hostage. They ban for gg ez because its toxic. Gg ez is toxic? How thin is your skin to get offended by gg ez
Barfing Chicken Studios (2 months ago)
Exactly the same reasons why hate speech should never be outlawed. It always and only depends on the individuals definition of "hate".
Barfing Chicken Studios (2 months ago)
When you talked about politics, banning such things is entirely what George Orwell's 1984 speaks against. The system is bound to be corrupt almost immediately after implemented. It's idiotic.
Cicholas Nage (2 months ago)
you simply should not be able to be banned from playing the game for anything you say no matter what. there are other ways to combat it that don't involve stopping people from playing a game they paid for.
frost (2 months ago)
When I was 12 my school didn't have a playground.
Duh good Asian (2 months ago)
reminds me of my uplay avatar being banned because i had kim jong un as the pic. PS: there isnt any rule against political figures in the code of conduct and i tried to dispute it but uplay has shit customer service and to dodged every argument i made by changing topic.
Deathsea12 (3 months ago)
Honestly.. it is bad.. just add a mute + gag for the client and that's just it. Overwatch is 6 v 6, so just open the tab, and just mute the bastard! XD
FascistTube (4 months ago)
Drop Overwatch, you want a great hero shooter? Play Paladins. It has some issues here and there but overall it's a much better experience.
DrIvanRadosivic (3 months ago)
Team fortress 2 is still going strong. Fistful of Frags and Battleborn and Secret Ponchos need more PLAYERS AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT TO THRIVE AGAIN! Counter strike franchise is still good, as are all the other games I mentioned.
FascistTube (3 months ago)
DrIvanRadosivic I totally agree with some of those, I honestly think TF2 has had its day and is not aging very well, in my eyes anyway, Fistful of Frags is a ton of fun but the player base is so small it kind of feels like it's not going to last much longer and I've never even heard of Secret Ponchos but it sounds amazing lol
DrIvanRadosivic (3 months ago)
Red Ranger Team Fortress 2, Paladins, Dirty Bomb, Quake Champions and underrated Battleborn, Secret Ponchos and Fistful of Frags are good games that should be supported.
Nob the Knave (4 months ago)
More like "Create an environment where the company cannot be criticized."
Filthy_Bastard (4 months ago)
Riot Games is doing a great job with League Of Legends. They understand how enfurianting the game can become so you wont get banned just for saying some non racial/sexist/etc slurs. But if you do it to much to often or you do use racial slurs you will get banned. They won't say how the algoritm works but I guess if you spam the n word or kys in chat the algorithm will punish you almost instantly , but if you say it only once or something and the algorithm can't decide whether you are to be punished or not it will send the chat log to the support team , thus avoiding any of the problems you stated in the video.
Moobs Mcgee (4 months ago)
Just remove talking from games. By segregating everyone you can't hurt anyone's feelings.
Richard Gray (4 months ago)
Censorship
superman (4 months ago)
Blizzard is SJW confirmed.
Chad Thundercock (4 months ago)
It's not like theirs a block button
Isaac Sanchez (4 months ago)
Clinton goes to war with a meme and trump touches pusses. obviously the pepe thing is worse...
Daniil Eremeev (4 months ago)
I tend to rage quite a lot in CS:GO so I would get banned so much!!!
The Titan Potato (4 months ago)
Ahhaha, that French joke though
Boa (4 months ago)
Blizzards over-policing and nazi report system is a fucking joke.
86Corvus (5 months ago)
If you dont udnerstand what this is then remember, they were already banning spammers and people who in an organized fashion went out to target someone specific for abuse. What this is is carte blanche to ban any descenting opinions to the social justice orthodoxy and to stop anyone from turning the games into a hug box held upright through fear and intimidation.
86Corvus (5 months ago)
if you are saying anything negative about anyone or anything you will be labeled TOXIC and banned. Thats how fashism works...
86Corvus (5 months ago)
You are a naive idiot, you will not be deciding who is the racist, you will be called the racist and banned at the slightest inconvenience. Thats how this works...
Daniel Jensen (5 months ago)
I think it is the same rules from Blizzard that I read that it more or less ban the good/pro players and let the bad/problem starting players stay. I mean it like this: They ban a pro player in Overwatch which is a person who also are in e-sports, but letting a hacker stay in the game. I hope you get the idea what I mean
Poorly (5 months ago)
I was born with Thick Skin
Eric Parlee (5 months ago)
" they usually surrender after two rounds anyways" I can't breathe it's so funny
Smelly Flounder (5 months ago)
Ether all of them are OK of none of them are.
Gruntpocalypse Gaming (5 months ago)
They put laws on subjective ideas and insults... k guys its pre stupid censoring people for not much honestly this shit is not definable
El chamán Ají molido (5 months ago)
I am toxic as a player but with my toxic friends we have a nice time and i don't want to be banned from games just for be who i am, a toxic Chamán from Argentina
That One Guy Named Matt (5 months ago)
In hockey all out boxing matches are commonplace. *The NHL understands they're building up testosterone therefore aggression* _That's why they're only given a pentalty, as opposed to kicking him out of the league or arresting him for assault charges._
Snekcharmer (5 months ago)
Meanwhile TF2 Acjoevement : Make a dominated player leave the game
Keaton [nommin] (5 months ago)
*almost* EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS. Great video.
Bashar al-Assad (5 months ago)
Gotta love it when Team Fortress 2 has an Achievement for making a player ragequit, but Blizzard will ban anyone who is mean or shit talking to another. Also anyone should be allowed to say whatever they want on a game no matter what... 7:06 Wow the Germans and French still hate each other 100 or 73 years later.
Stellar fox (5 months ago)
7:05 holy shit i died from that
Untittled (5 months ago)
EXACTLY 420TH LIKER
Cs go giveaway Guy (5 months ago)
Lol in Chinese Internet world we don’t have racist cucks and 12 year old screaming edgy shit
Do something (5 months ago)
lol overwatch is gay
Demo Pan (5 months ago)
i dare someone to set moonman as their profile pic
Matthew Graneri (5 months ago)
In Australia, insults are part of how we communicate with friends. I'm not sure how they might have taken that sort of problem into account
trollbreeder (5 months ago)
As the engineer from tf2 said, "Take it like a man, shorty."
Felix L. (5 months ago)
Overwatch will lose a fraction of their playerbase if they take it too far. A good example for reporting toxicity is cs:go. There i nerer heard any complaints about being banned because of that.(still a toxic community tho)
Luka Bajic (5 months ago)
Yes, there is a STASI pepe
Luka Bajic (5 months ago)
Yes, it is hard to detect insults. My friend constantly calls everyone "nigga" but none of us is black
killed_by_goodby (5 months ago)
The world's goin to shit and saying anything even slightly mean that may upset someone's fefes is now a denial of service offense. Man, for as much as we hated the COD kiddies back during mw2, at least they were allowed to speak their peace without being banned
Stupidusername (5 months ago)
you know the other day i was playing bf4 and then we encountered a known cheater who was banned in bf 3 but not 4. Within 2 minutes of the match starting he had killed 60 people with 0 deaths we had no admins to ban him so we just sat there watching his massacre His name was AARROONXD by the way
Badolf Pittler (5 months ago)
this is how to make a big mess that will make people even more toxic.
HakJobTM (5 months ago)
Maybe instead of punishing descent, they should reward compliance. Maybe give those who exhibit good behavior a certain amount of premium currency on a set schedule? Give them a special role or capabilities on their profile (that aren't gameplay-related, obviously)? That way it would not only reduce the level of dickheadery but also give back to the community.
Shiny (5 months ago)
How can Blizzard ban memes? They don't own Twitter or meme pages
TheLastKalos (5 months ago)
Does Overwatch have a vote call system?* It may help this situation. I haven't played it in a year I I don't remember.*
O h n o
Dovah Cheese (5 months ago)
OrwellWatch
DrIvanRadosivic (3 months ago)
Team Fortress 2, Paladins, Dirty Bomb and underrated Battleborn, Secret Ponchos and Fistful of Frags are better games that need more players, ESPECIALLY the underrated games.
DJ Thorn (5 months ago)
Dovah Cheese Meh i fear this one is actually Huxleyite (Brave new world)
SuperBrassBender (5 months ago)
Dovah Cheese underrated
Behold a miracle (5 months ago)
We live in a world where evreyone is basically a political correct fucktard
Rush B iOS (5 months ago)
Geiler akzent :D/Nice Accent
AnOldRetiredElephant (5 months ago)
I once got banned from a bf4 community server for saying "niBBa", not even with the Gs, just with Bs.
madbluntz johnny nutmegg (5 months ago)
I dunno man, a racist can be pretty good on your team for psychological warfare when you're going up against a 5 man brazilian team in CSGO
K0mrade W0lf (5 months ago)
Normie industries...
ArdentParagon (5 months ago)
Using ai and keywords to ban people for speech, the most subjective thing in society is idiotic and dangerous.
Commander Vex (5 months ago)
I disagree, no matter what they say, they shouldn't be banned for what they say
UniDigit (5 months ago)
To be fair, you are the Crowbcat with a german voice. With a better upload schedule too.
DrIvanRadosivic (3 months ago)
Oh please, ESCalation is better then that shitstirrer.
RavenKStudios (5 months ago)
Who is Crowbcat?
SHEPHλRD 1337 (5 months ago)
7:10 die guten alten deutschen memes xD
VACationLover (5 months ago)
fcking_nigr has been banned due Toxic Behavior. Jeez i wonder why :/
VACationLover (5 months ago)
Right
Stellar fox (5 months ago)
because he was black?
LingFox (5 months ago)
I don't get why a game developer should go that off topic, and rather than fixing the game's errors start adding some political rules. Also, when people act like this, only empowers those words, as people will want to use them even more. At this point, people should literally be spamming them, in order for those to lose their meaning
Ichmag Bäume (5 months ago)
Offizielle Spielserver haben sich einfach so ergeben wie französische Armeen
Franciszek Moszczuk (5 months ago)
The blizzard has surely locked up normie-of-the-year award for 2018,lmfao
DrIvanRadosivic (3 months ago)
Apperently charities get a tax cut. So Actvision Blizzard got less money to pay to the goverment.
Franciszek Moszczuk (4 months ago)
His Honer, Special Council Covfefe Chocker ouch.
Nob the Knave (4 months ago)
Brother, you dont know the half of it with their "Silence" system and the ability for the mob (Or a dedicated multiboxer.) to issue bans without oversight. And thats not to bring up their recent "Breast Cancer Awareness" debacle wherein men on their forums asked "Where is the awareness for testicular or prostate cancer." and some women asked "Why are you turning the deaths of women into a micro-transaction?" only to have all such threads deleted as "toxic".
Sam Miller (5 months ago)
ESC this was a very good video, thanks!
KontrAdmiral (5 months ago)
Virgin overwatch vs Chad Team fortress2
Stellar fox (5 months ago)
good shit
Maximilian M (5 months ago)
I'm a shithead and one who makes remarks like your France surrenders joke constantly. But only where it belongs in a private voice chat or in a csgo server where the community is fine with it. But for me the loss of community servers is a huge thing though I have to say if someone speaks like german cod youtuber elotrix this might be unacceptable on a official server but I think for community servers or private games these things should be allowed to an extent. I mean in general the loss of community servers like in bf or ow has shown that we lost a fair bit of control over the products we purchase. But than there is a different topic, look up what xQc has done and been banned for from owl I personally don't known if that's the route I wanna see esports go down the.
asa_147 (5 months ago)
not even on a csgo chanell i can't escape rainbow six siege?
RavenKStudios (5 months ago)
Where is the problem?
IMCAL (5 months ago)
Banned for posting pepe memes outside a game? WTF IS THE WORLD COMING TOO?
Genocide (5 months ago)
the obvious solution here is that everyone will just use discord and never use in-game chat, I already do that anyways
Individu λambda (5 months ago)
Same, the few times I tirn ingame chat on, I remember why I turned it off in the first place. I actually have it on in some games, but these are old comunity run games, where you can avoid the annoying poeple and the poeple who think you're annoying can avoid you too.
SpeedsMcRonalds (5 months ago)
Genocide Shit, people have been doing that since Teamspeak and Skype. I haven't used in-game chat or voice in a decade.
RonPaul08 (5 months ago)
You have a good point about dedicated servers, but admittedly what you said about having to mute someone ground my gears a bit. This whole stuff about "harassment" and stuff online has gone the way of the MeToo stuff where the "victim" can do no wrong. If you don't like what someone is doing, you can mute them or even turn off all communication and play inside a little bubble. If someone is too lazy to take about a minute out of their at least hour long play session to do that, then clearly it must not be that big of a deal to them. You can turn off the game, you can CHOOSE not to use the forums. Online "Harassment" isn't a one sided problem. It's incredibly easy these days to shut yourself off from people and go into an echo chamber online, and to me anyone who wants to "sanitize" the "toxic" people on the internet are people who want the public sphere to conform to them rather than the other way around. tl;dr: nut up or shut up. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Takeshi (5 months ago)
Blizzard please, TF2 has a acheivment for ragequitting an enemy. Just ignore or mute the idiot and carry on.
veracsthane (1 month ago)
Takeshi heroes of the storm has about 8 features no one uses because they would rather report and ban. Mute chat remove chat block pings block chat block voice block players proably misses some to lazy and no longer care. This needs more attention.
Kyros Droztamyr (5 months ago)
Well, it's a kotaku article. So by definition it's going to be shit, and it's subject is going to be too. Blizzard is a joke.
yologuy929 TM (5 months ago)
Ew Overwatch
Maximus0451 (5 months ago)
I'd prefer if toxicity was handled on the local level. But, with more games using dedicated severs instead of community servers, it's hard to let the community decide what is toxic or not.
Kontraxt (5 months ago)
Got banned on LoL for calling a person noob everytime I have spoke to him. Had previous offenses, but this was the final one. Like what the fuck.
Ich Du (5 months ago)
In Rainbow six i started using the word "friend" instead of "son of a bi***" It's now even more funny than before and i can swear as much as i like in the chat. It's totally okay like this :D
Alt Link (5 months ago)
multiplayer games are normie garbage
Keyboardstalker (5 months ago)
How am I even supposed to respond to something so blatantly ignorant and stupid?
Christian Müller (5 months ago)
D Pup what about co-op games?
Windoge 10 (5 months ago)
they're taking away free speech, eh?
Stellar fox (5 months ago)
guess who pays for the servers and gives them profit? the people who they're banning because they are not allowed to talk after they paid for the content.
Keyboardstalker (5 months ago)
"they're regulating what i can say on an online game whose servers they pay to keep running. they may as well be LITERALLY burning the constitution!"
Sturmgewher88 (5 months ago)
Like for the French joke 😂 But seriously, censorship is a slippery slope.
NC5AMS! (5 months ago)
Päpe XD
x99 (5 months ago)
I think control of language and censorship and all that should be in control of the playerbase, as it always has been. Of course with Blizzard, epic and most of the other companies who agreed to this program servers are run by the companies themselves, which complicates things. Nonetheless I will always lean towards freedom of speech over censorship. Most modern, developed countries have freedom of speech and I think that is for a reason. So yeah, good video as always. Danke!
Absolver (5 months ago)
Instead of taking memes with a pinch of salt they took them with a whole salt mine
GreenTea (5 months ago)
It's true that dedicated servers are lot more controllable by the players, i use to be an admin on a cod2/4 server. I'd like to think we kept things clean and fun back then
cssqueezy (5 months ago)
in the french version of CS:GO you can only vote to surrender
Yayo' Ariowibowo (29 days ago)
Metal Cat Channel In Russian there is only cyka, blyat, idi nahui, and Rush B
Metal Cat Channel (1 month ago)
In Russian is only to hale commusim
Scitronaunt (2 months ago)
ikagura surrender now! we have you surrounded
Snekcharmer (5 months ago)
_we have you surrounded at least from this side!_
cssqueezy (5 months ago)
ikagura surrender, we have you surrounded
dink donk (5 months ago)
I have something to say... Penis
DAVID LEITÃO MARQUES (2 months ago)
BANNED
sprf (5 months ago)
dink donk haha benis :)))
TheAkrillion (5 months ago)
Do whatever you want inside the game, but when you ban someone just because they posted something you disagree with somewhere not related to your game, then that's wrong and there should be consequences.
Grimmer (5 months ago)
For me competitiveness in any type of sport is tight related to trash-talk. Doesn't matter if you are playing football with friends, doesn't matter if you are popping heads in CS with randoms and so on. We see banter even in chess...
Grimmer (5 months ago)
What did you said about comment section you pity german piece of Wurst? /s I still love you though KappaPride.
Marvimaker ll (5 months ago)
The only time you should interfere with communication is , when people throw a game. It is all we "need". Do not put an unnecessary leash around your neck.
Marvimaker ll (5 months ago)
"No OnE NeEdS rAcIsTs In GaMiNg" what is this even supposed to mean? If you say stuff like that , do not ask why you will get censored.
Kaiz The Monster (5 months ago)
feelsbadman
Milomand99 (5 months ago)
NOT CSGO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Pixels (5 months ago)
Isn't League of Legends and DotA one of the most toxic games ever,and yet they don't have any rules or "union"
Pixels (5 months ago)
Oh no I never said they should have one Im just wondering why people need "safe space" in video games when they can mute others
Keyboardstalker (5 months ago)
Those games are prime examples of why rules like these should exist. Those games have no rules like these and they are fucking cesspits. These rules don't say you can't criticize someone who's playing poorly, they are there to create an environment where people can feel more comfortable playing the game, and to make it more fun for everyone. I fail to see why this is a bad thing.
Pixels (5 months ago)
The French ban people all the time in Gmod

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