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Should scripts and macros be allowed in CS:GO?

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After Houngogonognge's video about a bunny hopping macro, I thought this video needed to be done. See his here: https://youtu.be/7y9a0KCzH4k 0:00 - Scripts and macros 0:35 - Where do you draw the line? 1:06 - Is it a problem or a symptom of an underlying cause? 1:32 - Autofire: something that doesn't help much 1:53 - Grenade throwing binds: helps a bit more 2:31 - Scripting shouldn't give you an advantage 2:54 - Bunnyhopping 3:21 - Consequences on overwatch and sub communities Check out my channels: ● 3kliksphilip: https://www.youtube.com/3kliksphilip ● 2kliksphilip: https://www.youtube.com/2kliksphilip ● kliksphilip: https://www.youtube.com/kliksphilip Other information you might like: ● Website: http://3kliksphilip.com ● Twitter: https://twitter.com/3kliksphilip ● PC Specs: Intel 3770K, 16 GB RAM, Geforce 670 2 GB.
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inteli722 (3 days ago)
If it's scriptable using console commands without any external programs, I think it's fine. A jumpthrow bind which jumps and throws simultaneously would be fine, since it's entirely scriptable in-game using console commands. A null-movement script is also fine (more used in TF2 than CS), since it's all console commands. When you have to start using external programs like AHK (or even mouse/keyboard software), you cross the line. This means timing-based scripts are out the window for CS:GO since the wait command isn't in the game.
Elias Kühnert (4 days ago)
Everything what not belongs in the game is a cheat. Cheats are not allowed. So stop using them. B-hopping is a good example for a thing you need to practice, so practice a bit so you don't need a cheat.
miss misanthropist (7 days ago)
sv_autobunnyhop is a thing
Tachi (12 days ago)
still not fixed. now we have ow/vac crasher
James (16 days ago)
3:19 aids
Undying ET (26 days ago)
Can you get VAC for bhop Macros
KekTV (1 month ago)
did you use an zalman zm m 300 in this video? because i have it and i just burst with ak with autofire :D
Trebleclef2021 Gaming (1 month ago)
No scripts no hackers I just fixed csgo
ThePerfectRun (1 month ago)
lol i got vac banned for using an ahk bhop script
BLACKfire HD (1 month ago)
I use a bhop script but I suck at bhoping does it still count as cheating?
Sam Harris (22 days ago)
yes
SysPowerTools (1 month ago)
No, scripts are cheating. If you can't do it yourself or can't pull off a trick, you don't get to have a machine pull it off for you. I lost a lot of respect for you just because you entertain the idea that "if you don't use it, someone else will". Infact, Un-sub. Cheater.
obscur___ (1 month ago)
So essentially I'm the only one who uses the scroll wheel for bhopping
LegendaryVegeta (1 month ago)
macro bhopping is basically cs 1.6 bhopping so wither put macro in settings or change back to 1.6 bhopping so its easier
SaintedPlacebo (1 month ago)
the thing about people taht say they can bunny hop perfectly aret full of it as you say. watch a speed runner play a source game. they will bunny hop perfectly every time.
Marin Ionel (1 month ago)
Is there any update regarding to this? Are you allowed to use scripts?
Trebleclef2021 Gaming (1 month ago)
Marin Ionel no
N4MYT (1 month ago)
yes
funkmachines (1 month ago)
yes
Maz Dela Cerna (1 month ago)
This was amazing!! Thanks for sharing! :)
Ted Barwise (1 month ago)
They should be in Casual, but not in Competitive
Dante Doppler (1 month ago)
Agreed. I also have a problem with the bunny hopping scripts accusations. I use a scroll wheel to bunny hop. And some people just accuse me using a bhop macro bind.
Adrian Mercado (2 months ago)
A gray airiar
Herra Vöfflur (2 months ago)
Grenade throws are random because people IRL wont be able to consistently through the same
What about simply drawing the line for what isn't allowed at "everything that in any way provides a tactical advantage in terms of movement, firepower, gun handling and FoV"? I feel like this definition prohibits the most "unfair advantages", while still allowing grenade scripts auto-buys, say-commands etc...
Keagan Extreme Gaming (2 months ago)
How at 1:34 did you manage to get mouse button input to work in the multi key setup I can’t get that to work
Mr_Matt (2 months ago)
I bunny hop at 400 units for like 2 secs because I'm Lucky and good. Yet I get a overwatch and get warned
WEHRWOLF70 (2 months ago)
vac=valve allows cheats
Gaming Life (2 months ago)
how much does 1 vac ban last and my friend got his account banned by overwatch on cs go is that normal does it happen to everyone
Galaxy Games 456 (2 months ago)
Not scripts but macros are ok
MTS Gaming & Music (2 months ago)
I hope valve watches this
Be a lawyer. How do you make everyone agree with you?! Life is unfair. Somehow you manage to make the best points of every person. Good job
BluuM (3 months ago)
I use a script where I can see teammate silhouettes through walls and their HP, to make sure I don't teamkill, is that fine?
Hellish Cyberdemon (3 months ago)
Csgo is no longer a source game... it's a locked down source game with 0 modding support... of you told me in 2010 that a game is coming out that is on source and has barely any scripts and 0 modding support I would have called you a liar and you were a fucking idiot
Nero (3 months ago)
Nop
Little R Gaming (3 months ago)
I used a bhop script for a bit. I felt like a cheater when i tried to make it look 'not obvious' so i just stopped.
Flash & Bang Productions (3 months ago)
There are AHK macros that work as triggerbots now :/ you can just hold an angle and let the macro detect a difference in the colour of the pixel to fire for you, THAT, is going too far...
Ali Abdullah (28 days ago)
Thats a trigger bot
M E G A c o o l D U D E
MysticalDream (1 month ago)
In 1v1
MysticalDream (1 month ago)
Flash & Bang Productions I use it
Imie Nazwisko (3 months ago)
I don't think you need AIDS to pull things off.
Shitty Autocorrector Guy (3 months ago)
As long as scripts can be used in TF2, I'm fine.
Carto Carto (3 months ago)
Using scripts IS cheating. How are on earth is there a debate about this??
Breezetix (3 months ago)
no
Kilos (3 months ago)
Is having a script that changes my name every second a thing they can get me banned?
ShouldiAskaQuestion (3 months ago)
Jumpthrow is really easy. Just press space and left click at exacly the same time
Dwemerium [DWM] (4 months ago)
Listen here valve doesn't care about their games they just wan't money deal with it
最強ゼロ (4 months ago)
Great Video, i understand now what people think when they say MACRO is cheat. For me, Macro isn't a cheat and should be legal to use. If people Always jump well to throw grenade, it doesn't make the game unplayable. macro just give few advantage for NOOB only, if it break the game, then a patch must be done to the game for making this macro JUST OKAY to use and not BREAKING THE GAME. And jumping grenade don't break the game for me. I used to play "The king of fighter XIII" and even there, if i fought someone using macro doing stuffs like: HD Combo. It will be 100% ok for me and i will be grateful that macro helping him to make him a opponent able to beat me.
WithNoRoof (4 months ago)
consistent bunny hopping isn't too hard down straight paths
SylveonRL (4 months ago)
There actually is no way of forcing mouse producers to remove the macro function, and since it doesn't inject anything into the client it's only bannable if obvious in Overwatch. If you're using it smart, you have a HUGE advantage without consequences.
NobodyImportant (4 months ago)
Why would the use of things like automation scripts be classed as cheating? if they do not alter the game files or have no real access to the live running game code then I see no reason why they are scorned upon. So Macro mice and keyboards are bad because it allows someone to tap a key and have it auto hold for the time is takes to plant or defuse the bomb instead of them physically having to hold the button. but someone who has the very latest top spec pc to gain a clear advantage over a low spec PC is fine? What next, are we banning headsets because not everyone has them?
Try2BeDerp (4 months ago)
So wait..... Is buy keybinds allowed?
Heilstrahl aktiviert (4 months ago)
My friend got banned because of overwatch and he wasn’t even using a script
No Name (4 months ago)
Is autofire illegal help please
Max Jiang (4 months ago)
There shouldn't even be bhopping
Kaleb Bruwer (4 months ago)
I have no problem with it for switching weapons or buying a weapon, but it shouldn't be able to replace skill. Then you wight as well write AI to play for you, which is some serious hacking.
Twiggyay (4 months ago)
People are so fucking dense. "HURR DURR buy scripts are scripts too should they be banned" Shit that gives you a mechanical advantage or helps you do something otherwise not mechanically possible (like unreliable smokethrows made reliable by scripting) are OBVIOUSLY cheating. So let's say you're one of those who supports grenade throw macros or whatever the fuck you call it, think about this. It's a mixture of movement (jump) and the throw in itself (a timed click). So execution + timed execution = OK in your book? let's have a button that makes you instantly turn away from flashes with a single click. let's have deagle macro that shots at the exact rate that it takes for it to return to full accuracy. Remember what the grenade bind was a combination of? the automation of spacebar and mouse one in a timed fashion. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT BHOP-SCRIPTS ARE YOU DUMB FUCK. The timed automation of spacebar clicks. If you support grenade-throw scripts you are also supporting bhop-scripts you dumb fuck. This isn't even a fucking debate.
R Λ Z Ξ R - Noah (4 months ago)
MACROS: Yes, Source Engine can prevent alot of cheating. SCRIPTS: No, AutoHotKey is technically "Scripts" and can provide ESPs, Wallhacks, Aimbots, etc.
Korrupter Donut (4 months ago)
2015, scripts shouldnt be banned. 2017 valve bans trolling on second time lol
Firepower (5 months ago)
Why do people want there to be a skill element to throwing grenades? It's completely unnecessary. The skill in CSGO should be things like strategy, aiming, stuff like that. Not something as binary as grenade throwing.
VonVixen (5 months ago)
Philip, I just watch your videos because I love to hear the soothing and jolly sound of your voice
L1NK3D (5 months ago)
Is a macro for Quick-switching allowed ?
Abum (5 months ago)
I use bhop macros I'm completely fine with them, I'm not fine with scripting tho
Zoinx (5 months ago)
2 years old!
Nathan (5 months ago)
Technically, the LMB is a macro for shooting and it's not banned
5Above Benji (5 months ago)
Im insane at bhopping and i think thats what might have gotten me banned :'( OW just doesn't get that some of us are lucky as hell
roblox reviews gamer (5 months ago)
valve does not give a crap
PrevosHD (5 months ago)
bhop.ahk
SPACE_INVADER No (6 months ago)
Can you get banned for Unsing the autofire key for jump
420NoScope (6 months ago)
Bunnyhopping isnt that hard that u need scripts for it...
Gaming Needed (6 months ago)
B hop, jump throws, auto fire are all cheating for me. As for auto buy i have programmable keyboard and i think it is ok
Bob John (6 months ago)
Can someone please help me create a jumpthrow bind? I watched all the videos and they don't help if you can add me on discord @ rod#1617
沈煜詳 (6 months ago)
Valve should implement Portal 2 style bunnyhopping, where you lose air control after a certain velocity (~320), then make it an official movement mechanic by teaching it a little bit in the tutorial, sort of like rocket jumping in TF2.
Niko Bellic (6 months ago)
Remove bhop?Wtf Philip that shit is one of CS's staples
P2nda (7 months ago)
What mouse you are using?
Poly Gyro (7 months ago)
If anything I think bhopping should be buffed, like what it used to be.
that one hater (7 months ago)
They need to help bring back b hops, no offense but csgo is about skill and b hopping is the ultimate skill, it gives you a massive advantage and I think if someone is willing to out time into doing it they deserve that advantage like spray pattens, if you spend hours and days to learn a pattern you can pretty much get head shots or easy kills for days,
thunder Bacon (7 months ago)
Yeah i was vac ban for being good at bhop like dang now i cant play comp 😭
Redei326 (7 months ago)
I can like only hit like 1 or 2 bhop jumps in a valve server
Fated (7 months ago)
I got vac ban for using autohotkey custom script!
ZABIALY (7 months ago)
CS without bhop isn't cs anymore...
Alex Sheehan (7 months ago)
Allowing autoshoot and bunnyhob scripts in CSGO is like allowing one button infinites in fighting games. It drops the skill ceiling and rewards players for doing almost nothing.
ThaDerp Derpness (7 months ago)
S
KakaroT Saiyan (7 months ago)
Yes we want bunny hopping.
riog1me #r33squad (7 months ago)
its houngoungagne dammit
Regular Yugoslav (7 months ago)
Wait Macros aren't allowed?
xMorpheusx (7 months ago)
*gets ad* girl: hmmm no
Masterzz 57 (8 months ago)
0:42 i have that mouse
Nyan (8 months ago)
Phoon could do it xdxdxd
Bookofwords (8 months ago)
I use a macro on my mouse that basically shoots one shot every 150ms... turning each rifle into basically a semi-automatic
Tobias Boss (8 months ago)
Yes they should
Kawaii (8 months ago)
Anyone can use a macro so how is it cheating
PRLX. (8 months ago)
To avoid false positives on Overwatch reviews, valve could add a feature to Overwatch which displays what keys are being pressed, that way if someone is scripting, they could easily be able to tell by the amount of times space is being pressed, rather than being pressed legit.
Loxu (9 months ago)
I feel like people who say its 100% luck really just haven't practiced enough with it, it definitely has a luck aspect there is no arguing that but you can get bhops every round or every other round without being a god at the game or really having good aim. Ok yes its gonna be like 3-6 hops and yes it will take multiple tries every round to do that but its doable. Bhopping is pretty situational in the first place yeah it'll help peaking areas (depending on if you hit the hop and after hitting the hop you get to the place at a good time while the enemy is setting up also stopping the hop at the right time), so it has a place competitively it also is fun to use casually. I really don't understand the hate of bhopping if you can't do it don't use it you might get killed by bhopping as a main factor maybe once in a game (later rounds you should expect it/prepare for it) and it takes skill to do so its not just a braindead technique that gives a clear advantage and everyone is doing it. IMO the problem is scripts I feel any scripts should be banned they should rework the smoke physics and also add an autobuy function in the game (it was in previous games why isnt it here?)
Joaquin Boutsen (9 months ago)
i cant even get a rank fml
WorgenatorWoW (9 months ago)
Gray arear
DamianIsAmazing (9 months ago)
Scripts? More like... uh.. like not... cheating... yeah *_g-got em!_*
Niels Van Steen (9 months ago)
You forgot the worst of all "no recoil script"
D3NK M3M35 (9 months ago)
if you dont mind asking im new to cs and i i would like to do that thing where it buys for u
artsy fartsy (9 months ago)
Can you get vaccbanned for macros
techsimmons (9 months ago)
Say you had a mouse that had a trigger bot feature.
JustMeelz (9 months ago)
So are macros VACable? I use a bhop script but mainly just for fun with friends, really bhops don't actually any advantages. The only instance I can think you'd be banned for macros is if people report you enough.
Loxu (9 months ago)
bhopping does give advantages if you use it right also if you are using the scripts in competitive and you get reported for that most likely you will get banned in overwatch just learn how to bhop its really not as hard as people make it out to be idk maybe its just me i did try to speedrun half life at one point
James Becker (9 months ago)
isnt scripting cheating in say runescape. or another mmorpg. like script to skill.
TheOne TrueBrodstar (9 months ago)
i can get 7 bunny hops most times and 13-19 on my best runs.
Mr Sparklepants (9 months ago)
look at when valve tried to get rid of bhopping in Half life 2 they added a faster mechanic that is also easier than bhopping
Loxu (9 months ago)
abh for life

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