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Source Lighting Bugs

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A little different to my normal stuff, but I figured you'd be getting bored of the graphs and figures. Time to take a look at the limitations and failures of the Source engine. Check out the new graphical features here: http://blog.counter-strike.net/workshop/maps.php#hammer 0:24 - Why mapping for Source is such hard work 0:39 - Methods of calculating lighting 1:46 - Broken props since latest update and how to fix it 2:37 - Other problems with fast lighting 2:46 - Real-time shadows 3:12 - Flickering / toggleable lights - FIXED as of 12/5/17 Thanks to Tophattwaffle for help with this video: https://www.youtube.com/user/rocketrascal34 Check out my channels: ● 3kliksphilip: https://www.youtube.com/3kliksphilip ● 2kliksphilip: https://www.youtube.com/2kliksphilip ● kliksphilip: https://www.youtube.com/kliksphilip Other information you might like: ● Website: http://3kliksphilip.com ● Twitter: https://twitter.com/3kliksphilip ● PC Specs: Intel 3770K, 16 GB RAM, Geforce 670 2 GB.
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STEN Gaming And Music (23 days ago)
now my map doesnt open at all:/
over00lord Unknown (24 days ago)
1:44 A similar thing happens with modding Minecraft (odd you mentioned the game), in the virtual game environment using MCP (Mod Coder Pack) everything with ambient lighting turns very black, even the actual light source!
over00lord Unknown (24 days ago)
1:05 OOHHHHH! SO *THAT'S* WHY IT'S CALLED VOXELBOX!... XD (Mod Pack for Minecraft)
HorroR (1 month ago)
i swear i got jumpscared by the tree in the end
KeBjg 123 (2 months ago)
this just made my whole level black (other than the props)
FlameR*/A / (2 months ago)
Sub Helped .
Kveldsmat (2 months ago)
No more flickering or toggleable lights? That was my favorite thing to implement in maps back in CSS and Half-Life 2 :(
Shitty Autocorrector Guy (3 months ago)
There's a new bug. Apparently, vrad_dll.dll broke. They fixed it in CS:GO, but not in TF2. Do you know if the CS:GO vrad dll is compatible with TF2's?
Mtn- Dewgang (4 months ago)
Made with sorce
Vasilis Papanikolaou (4 months ago)
for some reason the props in the 3d skybox werent lighting up. Your settings fixed it my godsend 3kliks. I just did HDR only
DreamsOfCyanide (4 months ago)
It's always the trees since 2008...
R-C-MAN (4 months ago)
Ahh yes I have those checkers issue, glad you gave me the answer
L33T Boom (5 months ago)
legit spooked me at the end
lol 10096 (6 months ago)
So, now i know why they take so much to load lol
MysticalKitty71 (7 months ago)
what should i do if, all the fixes don't work?
Marko Bratković (7 months ago)
what is with the moving trees????
Glock Crusader (7 months ago)
Sentry (8 months ago)
CS:GO no longer has issues with flashing lights and similar. View this Video from TopHattWaffle to see examples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcYG3acBiDE
federico saviano (8 months ago)
Tobias Boss (9 months ago)
So what source needs is a Minecraft light option
RainyClouden Dasher (9 months ago)
Btw people dont follow the fast light thing it will just break you compile for you map you did it on
RainyClouden Dasher (9 months ago)
when i followed this tutorial it broke my compiling for one of my test map and i cant compile my test map anymore
xXYannuschXx (9 months ago)
I find it funny that we STILL don't have real-time ray-tracing on PC, but a 10 year old PS3 used it in a lot of high-end games.
BOMBO (9 months ago)
tree revenge ye
LUDE (9 months ago)
Helppp while im goin with hdr all lights dont work :(
Vadim Taranov (9 months ago)
The most accurate way to render is path tracing, as ray tracing doesn't perform global ilummination, instead some tricks like photon maps do this.
Iwan2510 (9 months ago)
Karlis Korlass (10 months ago)
The tree really scared me
Nightshade (10 months ago)
Actually, Pathtracing is the most accurate lighting method available. However, it is so resource heavy that it is not possible in real-time. But, that may soon change. I am personally working on a real-time pathtracing solution for Unreal Engine 4. I may be able to also bring it to Source 2. If I am allowed to access the source code that is. Also, Global Illumination is actually a Raytracing technique. GI is effectively a way to set an "importance volume" around the scene to tell the engine exactly what needs to have GI and what doesn't. Out of bounds areas are outside of the volume because they are areas that the player will not see. Thus, they do not need GI. Ambient Occlusion can be performed with several different methods. The most common being SSAO or "Screen Space Ambient Occlusion". Some games use a variant of SSAO, like HBAO or HDAO ("Horizon Based Ambient Occlusion" and "High Definition Ambient Occlusion" respectively). The best type of AO currently available is VAO or "Volumetric Ambient Occlusion" which is an AO method that actually calculates occlusion based off of the GI of the scene, instead of approximating it using only the depth buffer like traditional SSAO.
Hardcorefenix (10 months ago)
For me har is broken aswell some props are black how do i fix
juan moreno (10 months ago)
counter strike:half left for portal fortress dota 3
sheep knight (10 months ago)
Now we are finallay able to make flickering lights again, it works perfectly :D
Hoco4ek (11 months ago)
So, I don't need to panic, and I can just add a light_enviorment in my shitty aim_ map?
Sami (1 year ago)
nothing fix it for me :c
Avernus (1 year ago)
a recent update fixed the naming lights bug. Praise GabeN.
Itschaboi (1 year ago)
No valve pls fix? no like earned
RSK_Asherz (1 year ago)
Even with static prop lighting I still get black props. I use 1 env_sun downwards and it lights up everything, even inside buildings which is weird however props are still black. Any help is massively appreciated :)
Mikkitin 04 (1 year ago)
Can you help me? I cant go play my map because: LoadPortals: couldn´t read c:/programfiles (x86)/steam/steamapps/common/counter-strike global offensive/sdk_content/maps/verisauna.prt
xd (10 months ago)
do you have any eaks in your map?
Mikkitin 04 (1 year ago)
And then vvis.exe stopped working
Molossus (1 year ago)
it doesn't work for me as adding the extra like stops vrad.exe both in FAST and DEFAULT compile. I don't know what to do.
Virtual Connor (1 year ago)
how do i update the map so that it doesn't have black props when i play the published version
Brokmir Nasgalvoski (1 year ago)
Just put everything in prop_dynamic.
Jamesneakz (1 year ago)
HOLY CRAP that tree at the end scared me out of my skin
Михаил (1 year ago)
guys, pls help me. i have a problem with lighting. This command: -StaticPropLighting doesn't work. I press run map, but i have a red message with problem in console(cmd menu): LoadPortals: couldn't read C:\program files\steam\steamapps\common\counter-strike global offensive\sdk_content\maps\(and name map with .PRT) WHAT IS? PLS HELP ME!
HotChocoLahte (1 year ago)
what was that mars/ rocky looking map with the rocket ship?
HotChocoLahte (1 year ago)
Luiz Pontes thanks
Luiz Pontes (1 year ago)
It's de_elysium, his map.
Stoigen Froigen (1 year ago)
I try to compile it with fast and -staticproplighting but the compile log just explains different shit and doesnt even compile. Without the -staticproplighting it compiles fine but the props are still black. Any help?
Half Way Lambda (1 year ago)
Make sure you don't have any leaks in your level. Those are places where your outside map can see the blackness outside, which must never happen. See videos about leaks and you'll eventually learn how to deal with them
HotOpiz (1 year ago)
I have the same problem...
Arther Casillas (1 year ago)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/678o9jxifz4gke2/de_district_d.vmf?dl=0 my lighting on my map is fubar!
Cryppablezx (1 year ago)
that tree at the end scared the CRAP out of me!!! xD OMG
TheBreakingBenny (1 year ago)
Apparently trees hate 3kliksphilip.
Blank Tank (1 year ago)
Phew I make tf2 and portal 2 maps so I dont have to worry
HellSilver (1 year ago)
Felix Desrochers (1 year ago)
to fix the black mess on the grass disable shadows on the grass, then it will have normal shadows, dont ask me why deactivating shadows fix them
Vitamin D (1 year ago)
i need help my walls went black when i put light_env it do not work with any light and i have a skybox pls help when i try the map on hammers playtesting season it says cube map could not be found on disc
Vitamin D (1 year ago)
no i didnt
Marc Lavergne (1 year ago)
Lexer H have you tried angling the light?
Degubi (1 year ago)
You can disable the real time shadows e.g if you only compile vbsp, so you have no lighting. just kill the cascadelight entity with the ent_fire command and no more black shadows.
Colby Roberts (1 year ago)
did not work for me the shadows stayed and game ran slower
G4_KaoS (1 year ago)
when i compile my map, there is a all black wall sort of effect i have a light_env and it still doesnt work please help someone as i need to release my map soon.
Frigid (1 year ago)
When ever I try and use expert compile settings when I try to compile the map it works well but when I put it on the workshop it will crash when I try and play the map from cs go itself. does anyone know how to fix these? If so please tell me.
Half Way Lambda (2 years ago)
Can you show us how to enable these New features?
Chris R. (2 years ago)
Doubtful that the good ol' Source will see all the necessary updates when Source2 is already on the horizon.
Cykaraptor (2 years ago)
I can't wait til adobe cc hammer-shop pro 2016 edition comes out
Edward Barber (2 years ago)
Valve said that this engine would be constantly updating as new technology gets introduced. Yet they can't even have pixel lights inside that cast shadows. I've heard it was possible by some coding but not sure if it would work properly.
Evil Angel (2 years ago)
When I try to test the map out with sdk, it says it can't find the map I created. Please respond soon. Then it says that there is no solution.
SquirmyElk2 (2 years ago)
MonsieurCoinCoin (2 years ago)
I really appreciate the last five seconds of the video philip
uλ - Hidden (2 years ago)
The "Full compile - HDR only" option doesn't show up. Can anyone tell me the parameters for it, so i can set it up manually?
MadmanEpic (2 years ago)
Protip: Changing all props to prop_dynamic allows you to test on Fast settings properly.
MadmanEpic (1 year ago)
+DONALD DICK!!!!! Yeah... Maybe someday Valve will just fix the Fast settings. Someday.
Stoigen Froigen (1 year ago)
MadmanEpic But those take more processing power.
tema ku (2 years ago)
I see everything black but a small sphere around me, pls help
Ebelel (2 years ago)
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Facility Kid (2 years ago)
Why aren't you in Valve yet. Valve pls fix.
H4X (2 years ago)
+Facility Kid Cuz people in UK speaks understandable english..
No Name (2 years ago)
ah thats why my fps are 1/3 of what i normaly get on the newer maps
Voxel (2 years ago)
When i use the fast setting everything but the props get black instead.
iTomBass (2 years ago)
nothing works! help?
Thankthai1 (2 years ago)
Catonator (2 years ago)
Nobody expects the Spanish Treequisition.
King Saber (2 years ago)
does source 2 fix any of these issues
Blaze GTR (2 years ago)
well big thanks for that video philip, till now I was thinking that I was doing something wrong :)
Pootis Mun (2 years ago)
black props been happening with me forever! Never fixed it
podme sa zabit (2 years ago)
Philip i have a question. When i am rendering my map it goes like 10 secs. and then it writes with red this "couldn´t read c:/programfiles... sdk_content/maps/de_mall.prt". What should i do?
Half Way Lambda (1 year ago)
Make sure you save the map into cs go's map folder and not anywhere else
I get those lighting bugs on matchmaking sometimes and reloading map does not help.
Dimo (2 years ago)
will there be a bugfix?
Dimo (2 years ago)
the text goes yellow when in cmd and the program crashes?
JaykobTV (2 years ago)
Your channel is awesome! thanks for that kind of stuff
Gordon Heeman (2 years ago)
It doesn´t start the map automatacly
Spacesickrecon - (2 years ago)
my advanced tab doesent have eny commands what do i do ???
Neinn (2 years ago)
Ahoi, what's the name of the map with the rocket...? ;)
Neinn (2 years ago)
Thanks/Danke! ;)
3kliksphilip (2 years ago)
+Hearthstrike de_elysium
sTeVen Son (2 years ago)
when I did full compile HDR only and went to compile my test map , why did it set everything to default ? Like my cross hair and my FOV too is this just normal?
sTeVen Son (2 years ago)
thnx :D
Squid Sushi (2 years ago)
turn off the game launch after compiling and just run the Map via the ingame console
29Evilbunny (2 years ago)
It sucks that Valve took out flickering lights, otherwise how will map makers create candles or dimmed/broken lights in creepy alley ways? R.I.P realistic flickering wall torches...
Ollie (2 years ago)
how do u get them coloured windows, in windows? e.g. 0:34
Not sure, but when you right click on the desktop, go to personalize and there you should find something like window colors or something.
Ollie (2 years ago)
+MLG MINECRAFT PIG no shit. i cant get colours like that though
He has installed Windows 10.
BlackHedrak (2 years ago)
How can I do this at 1:52 ? and get the run map window
Half Way Lambda (1 year ago)
Nice troll bro
ScoobyDum-Fishy (2 years ago)
3kliksPhilip. I have been having problems whenever i test out my map. For instance when ever i load op the map i cant choose CT side for some reason. Also no bots spawn on ct side and i have a spawn set for them and everything. When i choose T side only one other bot joins the team and we're basically just playing against no enemies. If you could help me in any way that would be great (insertthumbsuphere) THANK YOU!
Cyblok (2 years ago)
Plz help my first map is kinda broken, the private hammer version works for me but no one else and the workshop version won't let anyone on can any experienced mappers help http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=645353204
Ccookkeeccoollaa (2 years ago)
A moving tree is on a killing spree.
Joonas Huotari (2 years ago)
Thanks for helping m8!
Mcee Grams (2 years ago)
I am still having problems with HDR only CSGO wont come up
Feyrom (2 years ago)
How will he die reference at the end! :D
HANGR4P (2 years ago)
+Feyrom xD
Feyrom (2 years ago)
This guy...
HANGR4P (2 years ago)
+Feyrom Actually it's a reference to his old Mapping tutorial series,where he covered how to use hammer,and usually he had trees on his map that killed him,that was later on also used in how will he die.
KillYourMind. (2 years ago)
PLEASE SOURCE 2 FIX ALL OF THE PROBLEMS AND MAKE THE EXPORT TIME A LOT FASTER! :( I cant imagine how I would export a serious map days to export it maybe? Trying normal or everything like its supposed to be already takes hours upon hours to export a simple apartment map...
Spore (2 years ago)
Thanks so much <3
Invalidstr ingError (2 years ago)
so this is way i get 27fps on nuke now only out side looking at a pip on the wall by B tunnels and at ct spawn :(
Simply Jacob (2 years ago)
this video helped a lot for my map making,, thxs broo
Cole Slater (2 years ago)
well, me doing the HDR thing only made things worse. It restored everything i had on counterstrike to default, and now loading up the game will only bring me to a classic looking menu. why does this have to happen
CHOASlazerman26 (2 years ago)
At this point Source is like that old rusty pipe that you don't wanna get rid of so you start taping it up and adding additions.
Feyrom (2 years ago)
+CHOASlazerman26 That's pretty much every game engine that has existed for more than 5 years at any given point.
Cole Slater (2 years ago)
I thought I was the only one with this problem. I've looked all over trying to find the solution

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